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Posted by mhorta on March 24, 2009 at 10:10 pm
And then you have the local fishermen…. “Over the last decade, the beaches of Orissa have been transformed into mass graveyards of the sea turtles, with over 100,000 dead turtles being washed ashore. If the turtles go on dying at this alarming rate, the endangered Olive Ridley turtles would not find these places safe for nesting or would be extinct in the next few decades.”
full post here: http://www.wild.org/blog/no-respite-for-the-olive-ridley-turtles/
Posted by sushma_rddy on April 30, 2009 at 8:49 am
They have always been criticized for being radical, alarmist and mainstream, for using methods bordering on eco-terrorism, and having itself caused environmental damage in its activities, for taking positions which are not environmentally sound, and for not valuing human causes. These criticisms have been not only made by governments, industrial and political lobbyists but also by and other environmental groups.
Posted by sijjuthomas on April 30, 2009 at 8:58 am
Things arnt always what they seem. They are blowing this out of scale and there are bigger enviromental hazards than this small one. i wonder why these western agencies can’t tolerate progress in India ….now they’re targeting India’s development
Posted by buntysinghmail on April 30, 2009 at 9:00 am
I’m a bit of a skeptic when it comes to Greenpeace because they have been known to twist and exaggerate facts when it suits their campaigns.
Posted by kkulkani on April 30, 2009 at 9:01 am
They need to get their priorities right. Bangalore once was called the garden city of India,
But now it’s a concrete jungle and still there are felling of trees and its happening right under green peaces nose
And they are not doing a thing, instead they are protesting were its not necessary.
Posted by steven on April 11, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Somebody please tell Ratan Tata to take a vaccation thats the only way these guys will shutup and do some real work.
They are like 10 year olds who get upset with their mom if she doesn’t give them attention for one day.
Boo-Hoo
Posted by Ramesh on April 11, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Making a car like nano takes a lot of brains and effort to design and create.
Making a video like this takes two guys who need a proper job.
Posted by steven on April 11, 2009 at 4:28 pm
somebody please tell Ratan Tata to take a vaccation thats the only way these guys will sutup an do some real work.
They are like who get upset with their mom if she dosent give them attention for one day.
Boo-Hoo
Posted by Steven on April 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm
How will we explain to the people of dharma that their port of dreams is being threatened by a few forces to be stopped due to their lack of knowledge about the port site.
I wish one of the local people of dharma takes the greenpeace guys on a guided tour so that they can get a better understanding about the Port and the nesting area.
Posted by Jessica on April 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Just read news about record mass nesting of Olive Ridley Turtles in Gahrimatha beach of Orissa after 2 years of no nesting. Just check this out:
Sea turtles start laying eggs on Gahirmatha beach
Posted by Shrradha on April 23, 2009 at 9:26 am
Man i really don’t understand y green peace is making such a big deal out of this, they should understand that orissa needs this port
Posted by Ranjay on April 23, 2009 at 9:53 am
Green peace personally i feel you guys are good in marketing and advertising , i would suggest that you guys open an advertisement company instead of an NGOs.
You guys need to know the importance of this project .. grow up Green Peace
Posted by prithvi on April 23, 2009 at 3:44 pm
The people of Orissa will have to pay the real price if this project stops. Is Greenpeace willing to take care of the employment of all the people in Orissa and help with infrastructure.
Posted by Kapil Bora on April 24, 2009 at 8:12 pm
DPCL is committed to improve the standard of living and enhance the rural infrastructure of Orissa. The commitment of this project is made on creating a self-reliant community in compliance with all regulations of protecting the environment, conservation of natural resources, restoring ecological biodiversity.
An organization as reputed as that will never overlook a crucial aspect as the arribada of the Olive Ridley Turtles.
Posted by Bhasker Ghatak on April 24, 2009 at 8:14 pm
If DPCL had started this project a few years ago, a lot of families would not have migrated out of Orissa to other states in hope of a better life.
Posted by Harinath Biswas on April 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Tell me about it, I know loads of people who had migrated to other cities in sheer depression just to get two meals a day. But thankfully most of the families are coming back because of the increased opportunities in their state now.
Posted by Anitha on April 27, 2009 at 1:54 pm
hey mhorta,
it’s nice to know that you know what you are talking about and have done your homework. But all the websites that you have mentioned seem to have the same thing written again and again… that too after all the explanations have been made and all doubts been clarified.
Now for a change may be YOU should go through this site (http://www.eco-dhamra.com/) for further clarifications.
And NO I’m not an employee of TATA … BUT am an Oriya … meaning I and my entire clan has been there for generations… so I KNOW what you are JUST talking about…
Maybe you should also check out this site (http://www.aamaraodisha.com/)… To know the TRUE picture of all the happenings…
Yes I can understand that you might want to safeguard YOUR job at Greenpeace organization, so you have to write such things… maybe you should start with improving the conditions of the place where your head office is ‘Bangalore’.
Posted by Anitha on April 27, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Here’s what the Infosys supreme, Mr . Narayan Murthy, has to say on the Olive Ridley turtles and development of the State of Orissa.
Question: But you agree that development of mega projects in India requires acceptance by the people at large. Let me ask you this one: What’s important – do I save the Olive Ridley turtles or do I build the Dhamra port?
Answer: In some sense, we need to do both. We need to think seriously of environment and we need to develop our business as well. We are a complex society. Our aspirations are different. The aspiration of an urban child is to perhaps eat very good pizzas or go to an air-conditioned theatre, or it could be to buy the next computer. The aspiration of the rural child is to get the next meal, the next set of clothes, to get to school. Both are as valid. I think this is where our politicians have to straddle both worlds. We can’t play zero sum games. It is very important that we have leaders who understand that India is a conglomerate, a consortium of multiple interests, and all of them are very valid.
Posted by thewoopinfofacts on April 29, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I absolutely agree with your opinion. We must develop in a way that we conserve the environment at the same time. The port should be built, in order TATA to be able to ship its new cars. Furthermore we need to built this port because the area needs to develop and local people must find work. We have to find an alternative solution. TATA must build its port away from Olive Ridley Turtle’s habitat. We need an eco port in every way.
Sotiris Kopatsaris
THE WOOP INFO FACTS
Conservationist
Posted by Sameer on April 27, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Hope you guys know that turtles have nested with successful arribada in Gahirmatha this year!
For more information about it all check out this site
http://www.aamaraodisha.com/
Posted by Rajni on April 27, 2009 at 5:47 pm
one cannot compare a turtle with a car….its insensitive towards the turtles. If Greenpeace wants to save the Olive Ridleys they need to show more respect to the specie.
Posted by Anup Mohanta on April 28, 2009 at 7:41 am
Generating opportunities for the locals, trying to bring about a sustainable development making SURE that they make use of eco-friendly practices are some of the things the DPCL has already started to do.
I know cuz’ I’ve seen it. So I agree with Kapil that DPCL will never overlook a crucial aspect as the arribada of the Olive Ridley Turtles.
Posted by Madhu Bapuli on April 28, 2009 at 7:42 am
Being an Oriya, I completely believe in this organization as I have seen the developments happening there.
Posted by Anitha on April 28, 2009 at 7:42 am
Why is Greenpeace trying to hamper the development in Orissa.
Posted by rahul on April 28, 2009 at 3:54 pm
TATA needs to just ignore these obstructions and go ahead with their planning.
Posted by Ramesh on April 29, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Have a look at these pictures and decide.
Current pictures of nesting.
http://www.eco-dhamra.com/photogallery.html
Posted by sharat on April 29, 2009 at 7:38 pm
We need to have some amount of trust in the government as well. So if they say measures have been taken and the nesting has continued then we should agree and let them go ahead with the project.
Posted by Anitha on April 29, 2009 at 7:59 pm
What is getting difficult to comprehend is the fact that WHY can’t both the things be done amicably. No body’s inhuman enough to build a ‘castle on carcass’. The TATA’s have always been extremely forthright in their code of conduct. All this hullaballoo is really not necessary. If it’s so imperative that the port construction needs to be accessed, then why aren’t the Greenpeace people agreeing to come to the table. And do you really believe that anybody who speaks against or for a person or organization is a part of that or the other organization?
Posted by Bhasker Ghatak on April 29, 2009 at 8:00 pm
This kind of publicity will get them nowhere and after sometime people will completely lose face and faith in Greenpeace … in a way it’s already started to
Posted by Basanth Baira on April 29, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Why don’t the Greenpeace people come up with an alternative? It is evidently clear that the DPCL are doing their best to improve the living conditions of the people there.
Check out this site for more info on that… http://www.aamaraodisha.com/
So why does Greenpeace want to STOP progress… Isn’t it in the fundamentals of all NGOs to get justice without harming anybody
Posted by Mahesh on April 29, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Hey don’t you know the greenpeace is all very dramatic.
Posted by sulakshna on April 30, 2009 at 3:25 pm
If NGOs like Greenpeace act like this its going to be difficult to trust other NGOs. The soul motto of NGOs is to help any form of living specie. But Greenpeace is just seem to be concentrating on just a particular specie ignoring the others which are affected as well.
Posted by Anuradha on May 16, 2009 at 9:47 am
Was wondering can’t we have both – Olive Ridley turtles as well Dhamra port project for the development of local people.
Have a look at the place Dhamra? The local people need better livelihood oppurtunity to survive and Dhamra Port project can provide it. The youth need not need to move to other state to earn their daily bread.
DPCL will also provide better primary education, transportation and many other amenities, which will improve the living standard of local people as well as boost the Orissa economy.
Regarding the Ridley turtles, Tata being a respected corporate of India will definitely adopt necessary environmental measure for conservation of these endangered species as well.
Posted by Meghna on May 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Enjoy this funny video
Posted by Meenakshi on May 27, 2009 at 11:35 am
According to Greenpeace, Dhamra port project will directly affect the Olive Ridley turtles, their mating, nesting etc. however found this video worth sharing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-10fqlbU5U
Even after huge Greenpeace propaganda, turtles came back for nesting at Gahirmatha beach, which is located near Dhamra port project.
Like to share few more stories:
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?654147
http://futureberhampur.blogspot.com/2009/05/olive-ridley-turtles-hatchlings-emerge.html
I think Greenpeace problem lies here: “After all, Tata has grown from a national giant into an international player”
Posted by Jessica on June 3, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Have a look at http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=41645784174&topic=305078
Its says:
“It may be noted that IUCN and the MTSG (Marine Turtle Scientific Group) scientists working with the group have clearly stated that dredging operations for Dhamra does not and will not affect the Olive Ridley Turtles in Gahirmatha Marine Sanctuary and its periphery area. For more details log on to – http://scienceoremotion.blogspot.com“
Posted by Aakansha on June 23, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Check this press release which is worth reading.
Posted by Meghna on July 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Greenpeace to see exclusive olive ridley turtles video shared by DPCL:
Posted by Tina on July 10, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Know more about Dhamra Port Project
http://www.slideshare.net/John_SM/ecofriendly-dhamra
Posted by Jessica on July 29, 2009 at 10:14 am
Greenpeace Lies About Apple
Greenpeace Lies About Dhamra Port
Is that like Greenpeace always targets big corporate giant to keep them under pressure and earn money from them ultimately?
I wonder why a non-governmental organization for the protection and conservation of the environment do not like to protect the human beings. I have found in few countries innocent & poor people require protections, importance more than animals.
Why they have been kept ignored and leave behind by this type of so called good organizations.
GREENPEACE HAS NO RIGHT TO CREATE OBSTACLES FOR THE ECONOMICAL & INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
Posted by Tina on August 14, 2009 at 1:23 pm
– Cyber activist blogger’s viewpoint on Greenpeace and the turtles
Posted by RMegha on August 24, 2009 at 11:09 am
Dhamra Port Project is not only concern about the Orissa’s economy or the society’s betterment but they are also concern about the environmental protection. A very nice video which you will definitely like to share with others
Posted by Aakash on August 27, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Light and lighting are crucial for any industrial project, both during construction and the operational phase. IUCN lighting experts and DPCL are also taking care of implementing lighting safeguards, which would also be turtle safe lighting and would be low pressure sodium vapor lights which have been proven by research to be the least disorienting to turtle hatchlings.
Source: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=296928&id=168851070709
Posted by Jessica on August 29, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Mr Ratan Tata Chairman of TATA Steel to Greenpeace activists: “I invite you for a discussion and a visit to the port site in Dhamra.”
Tata proved that Tata was always willing to have a best solution for country’s industrial & economical development and they were always ready for solutions.
http://steelguru.com/news/index/2009/08/29/MTA5MDgw/TATA_Steel_invites_Greenpeace_activists_for_talks_on_Dhamra_Port.html
http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/661058/Business/4/20/4
http://www.newkerala.com/nkfullnews-1-100917.html
Posted by Tina on September 14, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Greenpeace, the professed global environment campaign organization, in an instance of unmatched brazenness, falsified the report prepared by North Orissa University on Biodiversity Assessment of Dhamra Estuary. As a result, a group of forty MPs wrote to the Ministry Of Environment and Forests to call on the bluff of Greenpeace. The Orissa Govt. therefore initiated action against Greenpeace proposing a ban on all its activities in the state.
However, after the 102nd Annual General Meeting of Tata Steel in Mumbai, Greenpeace unabashedly has started their tricks once again. This time it has managed to rope in Retd Admiral Ramdas and his wife Mrs. Lalita Ramdas on the issue of Dhamra port but as far as scientific reasoning goes, the issues raised are totally unfounded. We can just hope that the visit of the Ramdas’ to the site will help to stop meaningless agitations and clear the situation once and for all.
Posted by Meghna on September 16, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Tata Steel has always maintained a strong focus on environment sustainability and environment management in all its operations. We have seen that in the issues regarding the construction of a deep-sea port at Dhamra in Orissa, the Company has been forthcoming in sharing the concerns of activists and ever willing to implement practical means of mitigating any adverse impact of port construction on the marine eco-system in that area. The Company has held at least eight to nine sessions of meetings with Greenpeace and other environmental organizations in the matter of Dhamra Port. Tata Steel has made it abundantly clear that it is willing to have further discussions in order to alleviate any unnecessary doubts that the dissenters may yet nurture against the project.
Here is an outline of events as they happened till date.
The JV agreement with L&T to build a port at Dhamra was signed by Tata Steel in 2004. At the very onset, discussions were initiated with WWF- India, BNHS, Mr Kartik Shankar, Mr Bittu Sehagal and others.
The company was duly concerned with the objections raised by different environmental organizations and agreed not to begin construction work till a detailed study was complete. Responding wholeheartedly to the demands of activists, Tata Steel agreed for a proposal for a further study of the impact of the port on turtles and on the marine and island eco-system.
In 2005, BNHS and WWF-India, with an unprecedented suddenness, reversed their stand and refused to conduct the assessment study as they had promised. However, the organisations did not provide any reasons for their turncoat attitude.
In March 06, in an address to ED, Greenpeace India, the Chairman of TATA Sons made it clear that commitments were meant to be honoured at both ends. The Company had fulfilled their promise by withholding construction work for the proposed study, which never actually took off. The MD of Tata Steel also met Greenpeace officials in their Bangalore office.
In January 2008 a meeting was subsequently conducted between Greenpeace and Tata Steel and a list of concerns was presented by Greenpeace with regard to Dhamra Port. DPCL on 8th March 2008, gave a detailed and comprehensive explanation to all the points raised by Greenpeace. Subsequent objections were allayed on 3rd May 2008.
Further on 23rd October 2008, MD, Tata Steel along with senior executives of Tata Steel, L&T and DPCL met Greenpeace, BNHS, WPSI, Wild Society of Orissa, Sanctuary Asia and other environmental organizations to discuss the concerns and the way forward on the subject with regard to Dhamra Port.
A team of Company Executives and environment experts visited Bhitarakanika National Park, Gahirmatha Marine Sanctuary and the Dhamra Port site on February 2009, supervising the ongoing dredging operations.
On fourth meeting on 20th Feb 2009 in Kolkata, Tata Steel, L&T and DPCL agreed to conduct the additional biological impact assessment in close collaboration with NGOs’ of environmental organizations team led by a mutually agreed upon Scientists team. However the NGOs’ in a further instance of unreasonableness, insisted upon complete cessation of on-going dredging operation of Dhamra Port even before the commencement of study. However DPCL, Tata Steel and L&T team showed it preparedness to adjust the schedule of works including dredging to facilitate the study after due recommendation by the Scientists team.
The 102nd AGM of Tata Steel had been attended by a number of Greenpeace activists who happen to be shareholders of the Company as well. The AGM highlighted Tata Steel’s interests in further conference with Greenpeace in the matter of the port in addition to an invitation to activists to visit the port site yet again.
From the sequence of events, it is absolutely clear that the only thing that Greenpeace wants is to prolong the situation of deadlock in the matter of Dhamra Port. Perhaps, due to a lack of other valid issues on their agenda, Greenpeace is carrying on with a stance of stiffness, lest they have to give in to valid scientific reasoning. The only deduction that may be drawn from Greenpeace’s lack of willingness in discussion is that they have lost their own conviction long before and fear that they will have to admit it as such in an open forum. It is indeed a very sorry state of affairs in which progress is kept at stake and the environment is being used as a pawn by people who profess themselves to be friends of the environment.
Posted by Aakansha on September 30, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Some shareholders of Tata Steel brought up the concerns raised by Greenpeace about the impact of the Dhamra Port on the nesting habitat of Olive Ridley Turtles at Tata Steel’s 102nd AGM in Mumbai on the 27th August’09 and requested the Chairman of Tata Steel, Mr Ratan Tata, to discuss the Dhamra Port issue with them.
Mr Tata responded immediately to their concerns and said that my invitation is “ to you Admiral Ramdas” and anybody else who would be interested and Mr Muthuraman would make the arrangements for you all to take the time to satisfy yourselves in terms of what we are doing.
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